Hey, there SF! Help us brainstorm!!

[mattblakk]

Some friends of mine are looking to produce an event for trans guys and the guys who're into them. Not for the super -PC easily offended, target market is more those who live as/among gay men and would like to have a club night for trans guys and their friends.

"We know a few FTMs in the Bay Area and they feel disconnected from the community because of the ultra-PC attitude that some have about it. This is the group we are trying to attract, so we need to be a little un-PC in our marketing and be a little offensive without being too offensive."

Their first thing we need is a name. Some folks have really liked "Taco Truck" as a play on masculinity with a vagina.

The last thing we want is someone going on a rant in the BAR about someone being insensitive blah blah blah.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Anyone want to help?

Comments

[theotherqpc.livejournal.com]

ok, i REALLY like "Taco Truck." and i would totally be down for a night like this. i'd help if i wasn't already working nights.

Vaggots?
Mancunt?
XX-rated?

yeah, i got nothing.

[bearsir.livejournal.com]

I think they're going to get spit-roasted on the interwebs and if they have the party anyhow lots of people will show up and hook up. ::shrug:: Nothing to be done about it.

In other news, we had a livingroom full of eensy baby homos and trannies today and one of them cracked open Body Alchemy to the photo of you, all fresh and babyfaced. It was kind of great.

[mattblakk.livejournal.com]

Did you tell them I'm an old geezer now?

[qnetter]

You're not getting older, you're getting hotter AND older.

[qnetter]

Mmmm, spit.

[anthrocubsf.livejournal.com]

I'd be interested in talking to them.

What does an "event" entail? Sex parties have been tried and failed, bar nights with outside promotors happen all the time (not necessarily this specific an audience but then the size of the bar is important not to be too big).

There is already a bar named Truck, and another named Buck, so variations of that won't work. Bar on Church (formerly the Transfer) has Wednesday event that raises money for trans projects (Dimensions Petty Cash fund was the first week).

There is a new photo mag coming out, locally produced, Original Plumbing, produced by Amos Mac with assistance by Tuck. Good tie in with them (in addition to Trannywood of course).

We are doing monthly workshops with Trans Thrive within this particular community and are also trying to build some sense of community.

[mattblakk.livejournal.com]

I mentioned Original Plumbing to them. He seemed to think on first glance at what's on FaceBook that it looked like a good match.

It's not intending to be a sex party, just a club/bar type thing.

Maybe you can provide some trannywood footage for them to show if the venue can handle it?

[yonihamagid.livejournal.com]

I'm a little out of the loop on this sort of thing. I'm not sure what's PC and what isn't when it comes to trans anything.

I've never been fond of taco terminology, but that's probably because it's so often accompanied by the word "fish" among gay men, and it's always struck me as the most misogynistic term out there.

[anthrocubsf.livejournal.com]

yup.

[ms-monkey.livejournal.com]

I gotta agree - the lines around PC get really fuzzy in this arena. Do let us know how the event planning goes. I'm in Seattle, so not any help there -- and while I've been an event planner, I'm not sure my experience translates much in this arena. the best I did was a campus wide cross-dressing party when I was in college - it was fun. Had a DJ and drinks - but it was LBGTQQ so it ran the whole spectrum of sexualities.

[bearsir.livejournal.com]

I told them you're way sexier now. Though I will confess that one youngster suggested ze didn't imagine that to be possible.

[danibearess.livejournal.com]

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Ah, the sweet foolish innocence of youth.
Real hotitude comes with a bit of experience, and you wear it very well.

that (working on her ancient heat) DaniBearess

If Taco Truck doesn't work . . .

[danibearess.livejournal.com]

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I do remember hearing the term "Cockpit" ('though I'm sure that fags in SF would've already used that to death) at Gender Odyssey a few years ago.

that (helpful to the handsomeness) DaniBearess

[anthrocubsf.livejournal.com]

Well, since DaniBearess started it... I like Cockpit, and I don't think it's been done to death....another suggestion is Male Slot (avoiding the term box and meaning space and entry).

[zanyassmask.livejournal.com]

haha, the BAR.

it's interesting i just did a series of interviews with gay nontrans men who date FTMs and their #1 complaint was the PC police.

[mattblakk.livejournal.com]

Thank you, Roger. I needed that.

[mattblakk.livejournal.com]

Thanks for your kind words. Here in the desolate wasteland that is Charlotte I certainly don't get any of that.

[danibearess.livejournal.com]

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So MenFisher's Wharf wouldn't work for you.
Just trying to think of what might work (that wouldn't be overdone [the girl still has a fag's sense of production value :o]).

Dani

I'm probably not the best person to ask...lol

[dodgingwndshlds.livejournal.com]

Wouldn't a rant in the BAR be like free advertising to the exact crowd you want? I say go for it... But then again, there is a reason that the subtitle of my Blog is "Gleefully tipping sacred cows since 2004.."

Re: I'm probably not the best person to ask...lol

[mattblakk.livejournal.com]

I don't think anyone is seeking to deliberately injure some fragile soul who will take any opportunity to oppress themselves with someone else's words.

I think they're just looking to be irreverent and festive and have a good evening being honest about their desire and see who else shows up.

G-d knows after 3 years in NC and not even seeing a trans guy or a gay guy who is cool with them it sounds like a slice of heaven.

Re: I'm probably not the best person to ask...lol

[luckykid13.livejournal.com]

Funny you say that, I've very recently been with two gay guys (separate occasions) from NC that were going on and on about their affection/lust/passion for transmen bodies. Maybe they are just on the super DL while in state?!?

[luckykid13.livejournal.com]

I like Cockpit. Taco Truck is too close to gay slurs about vaginas. I don't see many gay men showing up to an event like so, nor would I.